In this episode, Dan Hiebert, Professor of Geography at UBC explores the refugee and settlement experience with Saleem Spindari, Senior Manager of Refugees and Migrant Workers Programs at MOSAIC, one of the largest settlement organizations in Canada, and with Dr. Nancy Clark, Assistant Professor in the School of Nursing at the University of Victoria. While Dan talks about the wider world of refugee affairs, Saleem and Nancy provide a more ground-up perspective into the sorts of challenges that refugees face, from questions of public health, housing, employment, and education to how COVID-19 is creating further obstacles for those who work in and rely on the settlement sector. Dan, Nancy, and Saleem share their insights into what could be done to foster greater resilience and success both in the midst of a pandemic, and long thereafter.